All About the $$$


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Drew Rozell, Session Leader

Drew: Welcome everybody, to All About The Money. I came up with the idea of this class basically from everyone's feedback in the AttractionVille R&D team. In asking people why both why they joined AttractionVille and what would be most useful to them, it seemed like half the responses under what would be most useful would be attracting more money. I figured even though we already have ‘Attracting The Money', a 2-hour class, I thought I'd just host an open forum here about money. I want to keep this an open discussion; use me as a coach, use me as a sounding board, and let's talk about money. Let's talk about some of the processes of attracting, and let's talk about some of the pitfalls. That being said, let me throw it over to you guys. What attracted you to this class? What can we do for you? What do you want to get out of this?

Ken: I'll jump in here. You know, through reading and having a sense that, on the one hand, I'm really clued in that the world we live in is huge – I know all this on a great intellectual level and in my heart as well – and I'm really good at what I do. There's something that I'm hanging on to, and I always look at the, ‘What is it you don't want place?' that just seems to hang around. I feel like – it's as if there's a wall between myself and the real abundance of the universe that's there. I know that I'm rich and gifted in so many ways, and it just seems like the money piece is evasive.

Drew: So you're not manifesting the dollars you would like?

Ken: No.

Drew: But what you began saying is that, intellectually, you know the universe is an abundant place.

Ken: Yes.

Drew: And I'm wondering – a step beyond intellectually, do you feel the universe is an abundant place?

Ken: Yes, but it's fleeting, and I don't think it's a fleeting thing. I do feel the universe is an abundant place, absolutely.

Drew: All right, so you want to attract more dollars, and that the dollars don't match your ability. You can feel there's some block in there.

Ken: Absolutely.

Drew: Okay, so that's why Ken's here. Anybody else?

Susan: I have a little bit different problem, I guess. I feel like I have a decent amount of monetary wealth, but I just spend and spend and want everything and it's like my wants don't match my income. It's like I'm comforted in spending and buying until it's all gone. For me, logically and rationally, I don't want debt, I want some savings, and I don't want to live on credit cards, but I want that instant gratification, rather than waiting on results that may take years.

Drew: So for you, Susan, if I understand, the situation is that the income that comes in, you're pleased with?

Susan: That's true.

Drew: But what's happening is that you're spending more money than is coming in and so you're ending up in a place of debt?

Susan: Yes.

Drew: So by the time we get off this call, what would be most helpful for you?

Susan: I guess to get myself in a place where I want to have abundance, like in wealth or in savings, as opposed to an abundance of stuff and things.

Drew: Okay. Does the stuff that you get make you happy?

Susan: Some of it does, and you know – I would say most of it does, but I'm not really controlling my… I start to do projects. This week, for example, I'm interested in this, and I'll run out and buy all the materials, but then two weeks later, I'm interested in something else. Like scuba diving – it's a very expensive hobby to have to only do it a couple times a year. I also buy a lot of books, a lot of information, thinking it'll solve my problems. I spend more time acquiring information rather than working the problem. Does that make sense?

Drew: I understand what you're saying. As the conversation goes, jump back in as well, and I'll be thinking about the points that cover where you're at. Do you think attracting more money would help your situation and make you feel better?

Susan: I think somewhat, but I also think that with more money coming in, I would just spend it. I want to try to learn to live within my means. Once I can do that, then I could handle more money, but right now, I can't handle what I have.

Drew: Okay. You can't handle what you have. That's a powerful statement, and when you say that, it kind of rings true. That's why I asked the question; if we gave you more money, I don't think it would change your situation much.

Susan: I don't either.

Drew: I think it's more about handling, just like with everybody, this idea of wealth consciousness and handling the money that comes into your experience. Anyone else want to jump in?

Nick: I've always been a great believer in something that my father told me, which is income rises to meet expenditures. I had this conversation with my business partner the other week, who somehow felt the other way around. For some people, ‘rich' means $10,000 a year, and for others, it means Oprah-rich. I think it depends on your definition.

Drew: So from where you're coming from, can you give us an example of how you tend to approach things?

Nick: Well, 5 years ago, I wrote down a number and said, ‘This is how much I want to make a year'. Within – it's just this whole philosophy that if you keep looking at it, it'll happen, and amazing things do happen if you focus on the results. Within 6 months, I hit that number, so then I changed the number. You just keep doing things, and I just keep doing things until I get to that number, and the number keeps going up and up. I don't know if I'm any happier…

Drew: Are you driven by the number, Nick?

Nick: Unquestionably, yeah. It is – definitely, I'm driven to make a bigger number.

Drew: When you write that number down, do you have any doubts about your ability to manifest that number?

Nick: No.

Drew: I think that's the big point. In going back to attraction and looking at the steps – you know, ask for what you want with clarity and emotion behind it, it's given, and then allow that to come into your experience. That absence of doubt that Nick's talking about is what allows the money to flow to you. My guess is that there's a knowing-ness within you that the money's going to show up?

Nick: Yes. The problem is that it's such an arrogant statement to make; that's the problem with it.

Drew: And you might not know how it's going to show up…

Nick: Yeah, and I don't want to know how because that might get in the way!

Drew: Right. And what you said earlier about the idea that it kind of sounds arrogant – just that idea. I think it goes to the idea that the more I talk to people about money and bringing to you what you desire, what comes up frequently is the issue of worthiness and deserving. For a lot of people, without putting the struggle in there, that idea would be arrogant – it would make them stand out from the crowd. At least from an attraction perspective, nothing could be further from the absolute truth that we're all deserving, that the universe is a completely abundant place, and that the universe wants abundance for all of us. We need to stand in that place and let that come in.

XXX: And when Nick said ‘arrogance', it too me a while to figure out exactly what he said. When I heard it, I heard it as ‘elegance' and I was taking that perspective on it. I was thinking that was amazingly elegant!

Nick: You know we Brits never could speak properly! (laugh)

Drew: And I just want to build on one point for the folks on this call, Nick, in your experience looking back over the years, has money ever been a really significant issue for you?

Nick: I guess I'm the same as everybody else. I came out of college owing money to people, but I've been very fortunate I guess in that I've never done anything for the money, and I never will do anything for the money. I do it because I want to do it and I like to do it. Fortunately, I like to do what I do, and after college and struggling for a bit, I found my passion.

Drew: Would you say that you and money have been friends for a long time?

Nick: I love money. I love looking at it, I love seeing how much I've got, I love thinking about how to spend it, and how much I'm saving it. I have a very close relationship as my wife will tell you.

Drew: And a lot of people listening to this call and the people on this call and myself included, there are times when we haven't been friends with money. There were times for me when money wasn't my friend. I think it goes back to what your dominant vibration is, and for years, my dominant vibration around money certainly wasn't one that was positive. Every time I activated thoughts about money – and even without me knowing – the habit that I had, the dominant vibration was to call up the feeling of worry, the feeling of fear, the feeling that there's not enough, and I bring up this point because that's very important for all of us to understand in trying to set intentions around money. If you do have a pattern, and I'm going to use you for a second Ken – if you have a pattern where your dominant vibration is, and just from hearing you, I'm guessing you guys haven't been the best of friends -?

Nick: Very accurate.

Drew: So that vibration for you – if we're at a party, and somebody brings up the subject of money, my guess is that it stirs up those less desirable feelings in you?

Nick: It's a combination of those less desirable feelings and intense curiosity.

Drew: Yeah, you want to know what do I need to do?

Nick: Yeah, that's it.

Drew: Yeah, because I'm smart enough to be getting this, right? For someone with a negative dominant vibration around money – before I get to the advice part, at least a tip that I see a lot is to change your intention around money. Say something different like, ‘Money is my friend', or something like that, but that's not what the universe is going to respond to. You have that negative vibration; you can say it 400 times a day, but if the feeling every time you're thinking about money is calling up a negative vibration with that, you're going to be going in the opposite direction. Then, that's what you're going to create into your experience.

If you're listening to this call and you do have that kind of experience, the thing to do is not to put a happy face on it, I don't think. It's to take your attention off it. Then, put your attention elsewhere, rather than trying to fix a problem.

Gretchen: Could you give us an example?

Drew: You put that attention anywhere that feels good. If you're trying to fix a money problem or you keep calling up those thoughts, every time you think about money – whether you realize it or not – you're calling up those negative thoughts and that's going to continue. You're going back to step 1 all the time in the stages of attraction every time you call up this negative vibration. Instead, you're better off taking your attention off of it and putting it somewhere else that does feel good. You've already asked for it; there is no more ‘doing ‘ that's a part of this. It's not part of the attraction process; we make it part of the process because that's the way we work. Thoughts or questions about that?

Jen: Something that comes up for me is the issue of patience. I'll feel myself into a good position or thinking positively and focusing on what feels good, but then 6 months later, I'll think, ‘Where is it? How come it's not here yet?' It's that whole patience or the issue of time. How do you deal with that?

Drew: About when is it going to come?

Jen: Yeah, if you don't see it coming, it causes me to think, ‘Where is it?'

Drew: The answer that comes to mind is to stop looking for it. One of the pillars of attraction would be that the universe only wants good things for you – good things for all of us – and it only wants abundance. The other part of that is trust. Living this way requires a tremendous amount of trust that you can forget about it, that you can stop worrying about it – and that takes a lot of trust. My guess is that if you're asking for it and then in 6 months you're saying, ‘Where is it?' that in between there, you're asking that quite a bit.

Jen: Right.

Drew: It's actually a constant process going on. I'll share this one thing for me that has helped me a lot with my own experience. Again, I'm coming from a place of having a negative vibration around money, and mine was, ‘I don't deserve it'. Getting clear on that dominant vibration of not deserving it, that was certainly what I created in my life. When I got this awareness, anyway, and was looking at my life, from Ken's experience, I was saying, ‘I'm really good at what I do; why isn't money showing up into my experience like I know it can be? What's going on?' I got to the point – and this was around New Year's – and that's what it was. When I looked at my life and looked at my biggest fear, it was when I thought about money. I would worry about whether my clients were going to stay with me and I would worry about whether I would be able to keep my house, and so on; those are the thoughts that would creep in my head and they were so draining. I finally got to the point where I said, ‘Nothing in my life is worth this feeling of worry and the negative vibration around money.' I finally decided that I didn't care if I lost everything around me; it was just stuff and I'd been without stuff before. When I held this up to myself, I said that I was going to make the decision not to worry about money anymore. I decided that I was the kind of person that no longer had to worry about money. Of course, I got an unexpected bill for $2,000 within the week, right after making this declaration. I got the bill and I didn't have the money to pay this bill. It was a ‘request for money'; it actually wasn't a bill – it wasn't something I was obligated to pay – long story – and when I got it, I thought, ‘What am I going to do? Should I pay this?' I couldn't believe it showed up within the week of me making that declaration. In that moment, I reminded myself that money isn't a problem for me. I then thought, ‘As a wealthy person, how would I respond to this request?' They would honor the request, and that's what I did; I found the money, all $2,000. Within the next week, the phone rings, and the person wants me to do a talk and they want to pay me $1,800 for an hour. Pretty close to me getting the $2,000 back! Just by my making that decision, and feeling good about it – I didn't let myself right the check until I felt good about it and had gotten to that place – and just from this moment in time, when I made the decision to not think of myself as someone who has to worry about money, the situation doesn't arrive very often where I have to worry about it. That's a long story, but just to give you an idea of something that worked for me. Questions? Comments? Anything?

XXX: So you just kind of clicked a switch?

Drew: Yeah, I just did decided. I looked at my life and said, ‘Everything is cool except for this money thing, and every time it comes up, it feels terrible. I'm going to make the decision to feel good all the time. If that means that my worst fears come true, then I'm okay with that. if I've lost it all, I'll be okay with that.' Then, that took away the fear; it didn't have that stranglehold of ‘what if' looming over me any more. When those situations come up, and they still come up, you make the decision in that moment that that event is not a problem; it'll be taken care of. It is what it is and there's no need to go to the dark place of worry and fear. I'm curious what other people are thinking, what they're hearing.

Ken: I'm hearing – and there's a part of me that connects with everything you're saying, and I know that particular decision is one that I've made and flipped away, made it and flipped away, and made it and flipped away. I guess I'm looking for a place to hang my hat that says ‘This is where I'm standing and this is what I feel in the depths of my soul that it's really not a big deal.' There's no hold there; it doesn't have a grip on me.

Drew: What sort of grip does it have on you?

Ken: There's a sensation, like a notch that's high in my gut. It's definitely a feeling.

Drew: Do you know what you believe about money? You know, when I talk about it, my belief was that I didn't deserve it. Are you at that place of awareness about what you believe about money?

Ken: I keep getting glimpses about it; I believe that there's a lot of it – I think this is my belief. It's just out of my reach.

Drew: All the time, right? It's just out of your reach and it never really gets any closer, but it's not far, either.

Ken: And that's something that I say all the time, ‘It's coming'.

Drew: Understand your language there? You have to get through that and step into the place that it's already here. In order to step into that, what you think, what you say and what you do needs to reflect that of a wealthy person. If I said, ‘Ken, are you wealthy?', what would you say?

Ken: I would say, ‘Yeah, you bet.'

Drew: Let me ask that again – Ken, are you wealthy?

Ken: I think I'm wealthy.

Drew: How does that feel when you say that?

Ken: It feels wonderful.

Drew: Because it just is wonderful; there's nothing more that you need to think or figure out, you just need to be in that feeling place that it's wonderful. How wonderful is that?

Ken: It's pretty wonderful.

Drew: It is wonderful. You just need to continue to choose that feeling.

Ken: And I can see – here's what I'm experiencing right now. When you asked me the second time, there was a whole different shift there and I see it now. There's truth there. I can see where I have to keep stepping into it.

Drew: It's a continual decision, and after a while, like anything, it'll become your natural response but right now it's not your dominant response. When something comes up around money, it's going to take a conscious choice, a conscious decision on your part to say, ‘Which thoughts am I going to choose?' Those will happen time and time again, and as you get more and more used to identifying that, that will become your dominant thought around it.

Ken: I just had a thought (laugh); it's like building a new muscle, but realizing you don't have to lift the weights. Does that make sense?

Drew: Yeah; it's the lifting the weight part that's getting in your way. When you can lie in your hammock and get both intensely curious and excited thinking, ‘How is it going to show up?' When you can be in that place of being exciting and curious, that's great. Lisa, are you still here? How do you feel about sharing your story?

Lisa: I can share my story.

Drew: I think it goes well with what we're talking about, and I think it would be beneficial for lots of people to hear. Lisa and I have been talking about money and one thing I asked her is what her relationship to money is. If you can give the group that idea, Lisa – what has your historical relationship to money been?

Lisa: When you say historically, it's really about my family. I come from a family of achievers, and money has always just been there. It's never been something I worried about because I knew it was there, and I've never had a worry about it.

Drew: You've never made that association to worry about money.

Lisa: Right; it's never been an issue.

Drew: What I'm pointing out is that Lisa doesn't have that negative vibration around money that some of us do or have had. So, coming from that place, you and I had talked last week about an intention statement for yourself.

Lisa: Yes we did.

Drew: Can you share part of that with us?

Lisa: Yes, I decided that money flows to me effortlessly. Should I go where I think you're leading?

Drew: You just take it from there.

Lisa: My grandmother passed away last year and I knew there was going to be some inheritance coming to me, and I thought it was going to be about $3,000. Then, just a few days after I came up with my intention statement, I learned that it was $30,000, which just blew me away. After a little while, I realized that I'd just said that money flows to me effortlessly, and here it was.

Drew: There it is! I think that's a cool story because obviously it got manifested really quickly. Having the money now, does that change anything for you?

Lisa: For me it doesn't since I wasn't in a place of needing money, it doesn't really change my life the way I live. I'm also expecting a baby so the plan is now that we're just going to invest this money for the baby and have it for the future. I'm not planning on changing my lifestyle, partly because the money will come when I need it.

Drew: And that's been your ongoing experience, correct?

Lisa: That's right. I can think of one time when I was worried about money in my life. Being able to let go of that distraction has been really great.

Drew: Distracting can be good if it takes your attention off a place of worry. Thank you very much for sharing that story. I can see several important points there; one, that Lisa's in a place of just allowing it to show up. Another point that I'm just getting is that if the money comes in your experience, you know, it doesn't really change your lifestyle or your happiness level. Lisa's a very happy person and that's where she focuses her energy. For anybody listening to the call, that's the real key here; to put all that pressure and focus on money, at least in my opinion, that's the wrong place to focus, especially if it causes you worry. Focus on that which makes you feel good, whatever that is. Whatever makes you feel good, that's where to put your energy.

So, we're coming to the end of this; let me just get a sense from you. What has come out of this discussion for you? You can also throw a question in there, if you like.

Gretchen: I've been using this for a few years and it's definitely worked for me, but what I'm realizing more and more is that what always held me back before was that I couldn't step into the next level of the vision. I'm stepping into a level and then I get blocked by that level. I guess what it pointed out to me is that it's a thought process and an attitude process, and in a sense, it's not a real thing, if you know what I mean? The important thing is my belief system and what's possible for me. As I keep making the vision larger and larger, it keeps happening. I also like what you said about when you're focusing on money and the negative stuff keeps coming up, to focus on something else.

Drew: As a tip, if I'm not particularly feeling abundant, I get outside and I notice the abundance. I do something that makes me feel wealthy, whether it's enjoying certain houses that get me dreaming or if it's going skiing and being surrounded by the abundance of nature. You mentioned about stepping into those places, of being in the present and in a vibrational match to what we desire. Whatever you can conjure up and step into, it's always manifested.

Gretchen: Can I give you a very real example? We've been looking at yachts, and I felt my place – I've gotten to the place where I can look at a $300,000 yacht. The other night, my husband was looking at yachts that are $500,000 or $750,000 and I was saying, ‘Don't look at those.' A year ago, I couldn't have looked at $300,000 yachts, but it's just interesting how that works.

Drew: It's stepping into that place where you can allow it. Again, as a technique, I like to look at that stuff and start to get excited about it. I don't know how it's going to show up, but I'm excited and curious to see how it shows up, without me having to figure it out. It's getting to that knowing place.

Gretchen: Because everything is possible.

Drew: Yes, it is. Anything else?

Ken: I'm going to pay attention to everything that's around me and be a lot more mindful and curious and excited; I love that. Also, to really take myself away from the ‘how', because I can see really that's where the door slams for me.

Drew: Ken, one last question here, are you wealthy?

Ken: I'm just honking wealthy! (laugh)

Drew: Well, thank you everybody; thank you for being a part of the class. Happy holidays to all of you! Take care!

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